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Using iPad SkyDemon Navigation with FSX


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During the winter (and summer ??!!!!) where the weather is too bad to fly, I like to keep up my IMC skills by flying various routes and instrument approaches using FSX.

I can, currently, plug in my back-up Garmin 496 into FSX and the route and moving map comes up on the 496 whilst in sumulator mode.

Wouldn't it be a great tool if we could use the iPad SkyDemon plugged into FSX and allow hands on simulation via FSX?

Has anyone managed to achieve this FSX link?

Don't know weather to post here on in the sugesstins forum.

P.S - I am the worlds most un-educated person with respect to software, cables, patches and plug-ins (although I know the language), so a really easy fix (aka the garmin solution) would be great.

Thanks

Hugh

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It's a rather cobbled together chain of applications but it does seem to work OK. Please note that the most important/dealbreaker part of the setup was that my iPad is Jailbroken. I don't think there's any way to do it with a non-Jailbroken iPad. That said, here are the pieces of the puzzle:

In broad strokes, we make the PC emulate a Bluetooth GPS module, and have the iPad connect to it.

Your PC must have a working Bluetooth Adaptor. Most laptops would have it but I'm not sure about desktops (I run FSX on my Apple laptop)

On the PC:

1. FSUIPC installed. The registered (or trial) version allows you to output FSX GPS data to a serial port.

2. Franson GPSgate. This lets you share a serial GPS receiver over Bluetooth. Again, available on a trial.

3. VSPE (Virtual Serial Port Emulator). Use this to create a virtual COM port to be used as a "Connector". FSUIPC will write to this port, and GPSgate will read from it.

With this lot chained together, your PC is now essentially a bluetooth GPS module spitting out nice valid GPS data based on your FSX session.

On the iPad:

Even though your PC is now basically a generic GPS module, Apple in their infinite wisdom only allow you to connect to certain GPS modules like the Dual XGPS150 that I use for flight.

However, you can get around this by Jailbreaking your iPad and installing BTstack GPS. This is a separate Bluetooth stack which allows you to connect to any GPS module not just the Apple approved ones.

Once you have BTstack installed, your PC will appear in the list of discovered devices, When you click on it you'll see your FSX positional data and a map will be loaded.

It's best to disable WiFi on the iPad at this point. The reason for this is the iOS Location Services (which SkyDemon uses) also uses WiFi Triangulation to improve the accuracy of your position. Works well in the Real World - but when WiFi triangulation says you're at home, and GPS says you're over the channel then things get a little confused!

Once Wifi is off, Run SkyDemon and once you enter Navigation mode your position will come from FSX.

Best of luck if you attempt this, let me know if you need any more tips!
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